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picture CPPCC National Committee members from left, Digital China Holdings Limited Chairman and CEO Guo Wei, Sina Finance the right to quiet, to share with friends two proposals this year.
3 月 8 news, CPPCC member, Guo Wei, Chairman of Digital China Sina talked about the two proposals for a guest. He suggested that the State Video: Interview with CPPCC members of the media Guo Wei Source: China Economic Net, according to the needs of social and economic development at this stage, to a number of key application areas as an innovative breakthrough, select the field of business as a major technology project leader's commitment to the subject.
Record interview follows:

right to host static: Members Sina User Hello everybody, welcome to Sina's video studio, I'm your host right of quiet. During the two sessions will be invited deputies from across the country with the CPPCC National Committee members to share with you two proposals, subject to people's livelihood, our studio guest today is the scene from the Digital China Holdings Limited, Chairman and CEO Guo Wei Guo General, you are welcome Kwok.
Guo Wei: Thank you.
right to host static: Kwok is also a member of the CPPCC National Committee this year. Speaking of CPPCC members, to be sure to mention your proposal, because this is your most important during the two sessions one thing, based on your industry background, and this year's observation on China's development and changes, this year's most wanted two sessions on what to say, the contents of the proposal on what is the concern?
Guo Wei: the content of the proposal concerned about how to apply for the pilot to a national innovation system. 30 years since reform and opening up, we talked a lot into the work, from my practice, of course, very important to the transformation of scientific and technological achievements, there is another path directly from the application point of view, reverse to the core technology development, which is a new path, also in line with the national market-oriented enterprises as the mainstay of the national innovation system to establish broad principles.
right to host static: So Kwok called the proposal to apply this year to promote development, improve the national innovation system proposal. You further explain to us, we were traditional, ordinary users to understand are the first you say, like the first with scientific and technological achievements, we discussed how the commercial, how civil, how to put into production, so what is the reverse process innovative ways?
Guo Wei: Take a very simple example, such as our country is now engaged in a large aircraft project. Large aircraft may be doing, the first integration of a large aircraft, perhaps the engine is imported, perhaps a lot of parts are imported, by ten or twenty years of efforts, engine parts made gradually, allowing localization have been greatly improved. This innovative application to the final from the core technology. The history of our country which in the past, a lot of things are beginning to do so, such as we do bombs and one satellite, the first to do this thing, where would overcome many technical problems, in fact, formed in nuclear weapons, two bombs Star competitiveness. Space technology as well. Today's high-speed rail as well. First, from the application point of view, and then gradually put a lot of core technologies to master together.
right to host static: Speaking of this, everyone will have experience of such examples, but there are dissenting voices such as Kwok reach us in the studio, we are on the SAN Guo general notice of this interview, can not say that opposition from different thinking, users see how you like to answer questions. This friend said that if not to engage in theoretical construction based on it, is difficult to talk about real innovation, how do you see this?
Guo Wei: I talk about the application of innovation-led, not engage in base. We, as the advantage of the country, or the use of the socialist market economy, we can concentrate on doing big things in the institutional advantages. In fact, I think the mainstream of the national innovation system should be based on the pilot application of the innovation system. Basic research such as nature that can still be retained.
actually think we need another, not only in China, including foreign, too, from the original technology or original technology, through the transformation of the way forward, take a long time, and the transformation cost is quite high, it is about transforming our country for so many years, also spent a lot of money. Not to say that we do not do this road, but there is another path, may be a shortcut.
right to host static: This shortcut may be more practical. We first identify a goal, we have to do around this goal, solve various problems, engage in a series of innovations. This is indeed a different way of thinking. Notice in one of our 219 friend named Kevin asked a question, how to balance basic and applied research the relationship between the two, we talk about is not just one or the other, how to be between the two Good to combine or reverse the way through in what ways can really affect the more fundamental innovation and research?
Guo Wei: If we really look back, including the U.S., including some of the major scientific breakthroughs, especially into the 80s last century later, you can see, such as the development of the Internet to the U.S. military military readiness produced by the application of technology, not to say that occur naturally in the laboratory. Science and technology development today, has entered the stage to apply for the pilot. Of course we do not exclude natural sciences, but the main subject should be in this direction to go.
right to host static: You just mentioned this example, each of us review the history of knowledge, it may also think of such cases are, for example, the issue of the first atomic bomb in World War II, from which the United States to the final word , as the first invention of the computer is also used to count bullets trajectory, are based on one very specific demand, derived from a series of studies. We turn to this problem, you just said that we have a foundation of research, in the high-end technology has achieved many breakthroughs in the field, but when applied, but often lack of innovation, the difficulty of transforming the inside out what in the end causes produce?
Guo Wei: I can not tell the specific reasons for that, but we can see the statistical patterns and generally feel. Some people talk about an idea to bring a new technology, for example, make it a product, it may be 1:10 to, say, come up with this thing and make this thing, maybe a 1:10, the a product into a marketable commodity, may well be a 1:10 relationship. If we become an industry, this proportion may be even greater than 1:10. This in itself means that the conversion rate is very difficult thing.
another example, say the first handheld computer. Apple's earliest inventions was called Newton, and Newton was the iPhone and iPad now than ten years has experienced the process. We can have a handheld computer, and today turned into a real computer, the process took more than ten years, experienced many experimental attempts, this process, many companies should be dead. Today we see the success of Apple's huge success, but I think there are many companies fail.
such as your Sina, in the year such companies to do a lot of people, tens of thousands in China may finally Sina successful. It has been successful, in addition to reasons other than the technology itself, there are external environmental reasons, there are internal management reasons, the reasons for market maturity, there are business models continue to adapt to market changes, the reasons for adjustments,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], etc., this is a very complex process. You can hardly talked about the specific reasons. I often say that we are engaged in business or in an industry, the most important is the practice of the process, this is not a logical reasoning process, but in practice how to adjust themselves constantly, constantly changing, and adapt.
right to host static: just listen to your discussion, you just said that the basis of scientific innovation in the field to the last two special funnel 1:10, the last to really bear fruit may be small part of our wide angle from the funnel made under the application of force or the angle of force, and this is what you said, different innovative ideas.
Guo Wei: Yes.
right to host static: on the proposal specific to Kwok, Kwok proposal this year which has made four very specific recommendations, such as the first, according to our present social and economic development needs, to a number of key application areas as a breakthrough, leading enterprises in the field selected as a major commitment of the main scientific and technological projects. Second, to major national scientific and technological projects as an opportunity to encourage enterprises to a combination of production and research applications of industrial technology innovation and strategic alliances to promote innovation. Article III provides for the establishment in accordance with relevant national strategy for major new industry to support the development of the industry risk fund, from the perspective of the capital and financial perspective to boot. Article IV is to develop the guiding role of national key research projects, application and demonstration of the major areas and key technology research and development to promote the country's key laboratories. Article V, to be applied more attention to training personnel, Article VI, perfect competition in the market system, basically to encourage innovation, standard monopoly enterprise boundaries, for all types of enterprises to create a common environment.
finish the six specific recommendations on the proposal, one of the words we hear is that the state should do in these things there. Do you think the establishment of innovation system in which the state should be in what position?
Guo Wei: First country to establish title,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], such as high-speed rail, in addition to the application other than the Railway Administration, it is important that the CSR and the CNR research and development, many related industries led research department, everyone up to do. Space technology is so large aircraft project is the same, many countries established the first question, and then guide the many research institutions and enterprises. Of course, the main body of large aircraft, is the large aircraft companies they do business, but the large aircraft project is to establish the national title, to do's. Countries must first establish title.
right to host static: state legislation issues, the mainstay of the economy as a market enterprise should be to participate in innovation?
Guo Wei: complete title legislation, the state selected seeds, to establish who is the main direction of the industry. For example, large aircraft, may be China's large aircraft companies, it is subject to it led to the materials science, all aspects of the funds, and so together, including with foreign enterprises to participate in the construction of large aircraft.
right to host static: Click here to challenge your point of view, not just from my thinking, which in the previous notice, many users have this discussion, a lot of people think that government-led innovations good, or government regulations or the development of the industry, he may not be able to truly grasp the needs of the market economy because the government led the premise that entrepreneurs know more about government than the market, but this may not be a true proposition, how do you think?
Guo Wei: development today, we must recognize what a socialist market economy. Interaction of planning and market over the last say in today's China, the market environment in the micro entrepreneurs have no doubt that the market is more sensitive to the feeling, but at the macro point of view, the direction of the big macro state is concerned, countries should play a considerable role. The two complement each other, is really good for our socialist market economy.
right to host static: But many people will cite such examples, such as the national advocate a new energy around the country on a lot of new energy projects, such as wind power in various provinces and cities are doing, regardless of whether there are suitable resources. The problem here will you find out where, how you said to avoid the application of innovation in the country among the leading companies repeated construction problems occur?
Guo Wei: you say something new energy sources, it is the Government only to the policy, not to say as the leading industry. Who will lead, who do not organize industry alliance to research, so become a free market competition, it will be repeated construction, repeated investment, and then through a competitive way, to eliminate those weak, poor technology and poor management level of enterprises. This is the market mechanism.
we say we add the point is that the planned economy, the state can go to choose some seeds, just as we train like athletes, national to fitness, but also selection of outstanding players, the impact of the Olympics, if people make the country same thing with Liu Xiang, I think China will never overcome the hurdle.
right to host static: Here, again even more specific. Country-led innovation is the future application of innovative systems to build the core mode, you also offer advice and suggestions to the state two of them, you think what the next field should be chosen, as the application of innovation to the next breakthrough, said earlier that a large aircraft, said a high-speed rail, are things that have occurred, the application of the next round of innovation, where will produce?
Guo Wei: the past is concerned, we are when it comes to infrastructure, major industry called stingy. Railway, transport, aviation, aircraft, which is three blocks. In 2008, I have proposed, how the process of global financial turmoil, our national information infrastructure facilities were built in advance, how to play post-mover advantage. From my point of view, his own trumpet a little Pharaoh, because I am in this area.
about seven new national strategic industry, information technology is one thing, the most important application here is the Digital City or Smart City. Because in the second Five-Year Plan also mentioned in 2015, we will for the first time the national urban population over the rural population, form the whole of China will change China from a large agricultural country into a city power. In this process, along with China's rapid development of urbanization, our city will face many challenges.
second five-year plan that still called industrialization, urbanization, information and internationalization. In this process, the development of each city are facing so many challenges, for example, the problem we are talking about traffic jams, traffic problems, the management of floating population, as well as the official shortage of medical resources.
course, many advanced developed provinces and raised the question of happiness index, called the well-being of Guangdong, Guangdong. How to let everyone happier, Jiangsu also proposed the concept. At this time of information technology can help a very big favor, can help a city in which the process of modernization, to improve the city's well-being index. From the energy saving up to intelligent transportation management, has been the management of the public, the management of e-government, can play a very big role. So I think we should put such an item, Smart City and Digital City project as a major national project.
right to host static: specifically, that the application of innovation in the country and led five of them in the next twelve to be implemented, each of us lives of ordinary people what changes will bring?
Guo Wei: A simple example, in our research, a younger colleague, a dozen people sit together, almost, nearly half of the colleagues, they do not have Beijing hukou. No Beijing accounts, means that Beijing may not enjoy the many services, while the Beijing municipal government has no way to grasp the situation of these people, there is no way management. So we launched the card by the public, may resolve this problem.
citizen card can take advantage of information technology, put your Social Security, Medicare, authentication, credit management, and even integrated in a micro-payment card, this card each application may be in Beijing the public will be treated fairly. This is a very straightforward one.
Second, as we have traffic jams through intelligent traffic control, may make the phenomenon of traffic congestion eased. Beijing, like a lot of ways, for a 摇号 forward, for a restriction, and so, like a lot of ways. But also economic development, but also manage the city, which is a contradiction. The information technology can help resolve these conflicts.
right to host static: indeed this is the voice of every people, before the time comes to national innovation, the example just mentioned you speak, and was first bombs and one satellite, then the high-speed rail, and then is a large aircraft, it seems from the lives of ordinary people are far away of each lot of people will say that even the goddess of the moon god, and this on my life, what kind of impact, so you think the next innovation to the next round of our really benefit the lives of ordinary people to each, this is the real application of innovation lies.
Guo Wei: Yes, it is.
right to host static: In today's last interview, we are very concerned about the talent, because all of the innovation to the innovation behind the talent is Human's competition. Speaking of talent, a lot of people have concerns about China's current situation, because we feel that the Chinese people in general computing power is very strong, good execution, but the real innovation comes to the ability, many people think is not very optimistic. You as a CPPCC member, but also Digital's CEO, usually know how you look at personnel issues?
Guo Wei: personnel issues and our education system, and we research the evaluation of talent to have a great relationship. I remember when 1986,87 years to help the State Science Commission, when the words of Comrade Deng Xiaoping is worthy of our memorable. Comrade Xiaoping, China's Edison to use China's Tuobiliefu, why he did not speak Chinese to have Nobel Prize winners? Stage of development in China today need a large group of inventors, designers, scientists applied for the real economy. However, many of our current evaluation system is still talking about paper and writing paper.
such as our final results of research funding may be a thesis, rather than turn it into a commodity. Zhu Guangya, two days before the veteran died, Zhu Guangya bombs and one satellite in China has made great contributions to our association to include the death last year, Qian, and then move to Hua, the big-name scientists back from abroad Perhaps they have the ability, when the academic level is high, and if the pursuit of what is published papers, rather than directly to the national economic construction, then there would not have the Chinese high-tech, bombs and one satellite may be gone. So our policy orientation, our people-oriented, should be more of a culture that, from public opinion, from the policy, including the standards of our personnel, requiring such a talent, such a creative talent, not just only in the laboratory of international standards to write a few papers on the bin.
in the personnel evaluation system, which is the most important one, how to let hundreds of thousands of scientists, engineers, all of their energies on economic development or social development, the main battle field, not just writing articles, it is very important. The most important question at this stage is not China's problem is not creative talents, but I think that is mainly how to create a guide, a person can not make out, the more willing to write papers, rather than invention of new things, do not do China's aircraft, is not doing the Chinese inventor.
right to host static: people's problems is the fundamental problem, how to solve this problem, depending on how the real guidance, what kind of things to do. Among the proposals to set up research and see a combination of innovation and strategic alliances, what kind of ideas?
Guo Wei: including just talked about a new strategy for any industry, really need the power of the whole society to do. This is neither an institute can do, nor is it a business can do. In a society, everyone will assume different responsibilities, the enterprise may be more to face the market, on the application, on demand grasp very accurate, but its basic research, particularly research in certain specific specialized research institutions as higher level.
If we pass a large project, a large force in the direction to put this together, the strength of the industry, research strength and the strength of the school combine to make this thing, this is my point of view. But this is not a new point of view, this view has been about ten years, twenty years, I just feel that urge to be more efforts in this direction, so can we build an innovative country.
right to host static: the last time, we hope you like our friends have a direct communication are just the problems we are led,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], finally you have any friends who want to communicate directly, as the CPPCC members, you also want for their livelihood aspirations, in two sessions on what kind of expression can have, is not it also be a communication with them, facing the camera lens.
Guo Wei: As the CPPCC, attended the report of the Prime Minister several times to listen to, read, including the second Five-Year Plan as well, something Eleventh Five Year Plan. I felt from the government or from the central point of view, considering all aspects of very comprehensive, the crucial question is how do we continue to implement this thing.
example, in 2020 building an innovative country, there is no doubt in this direction is correct. But as for how to do that? The proposal also would like to try to explore a way, I very much hope that is willing to have this thought. Friends, we all go to think about the direction this is, but how we can use our practice or use our exploratory thing, to push the nation to build an innovative country.
because although the total GDP of China is already the world's second, but if divided by per capita, we are a developing country, the quality of our GDP is not high, and the United States that power to more than, or very low. Only our country into an innovative country, only the transformation of economic growth in order to really solve the people's livelihood.
we all want the income and the country's GDP grows, we all want to be able to staff wages kept pace with business growth, we also hope that my colleagues retired to the income level and price index was flat, Do not raise the price index of the quality of life led to their decline. But all of these, first attributed to the change in the way of economic growth, only if we become an innovative country, make more money, have greater economic output, per capita income increased in order to solve these problems.
right to quiet Moderator: Well, Xie Xieguo General, thank Kwok guest today, Sina, two sessions with us to share your experience, but also thank you for watching our program.
Guo Wei: Thank you.
right to host static: Thank you, This is the end of today's live!
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